Posted on May 23 at 9:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you, Dallas, for a level-headed explanation!

Deprofundis, you may have (quote) "included a link to the page is so that people can see what PP actually said" but how many people would actually take the time to click on the link to verify it's accuracy? Most people would take what they read at face value. What if you hadn't included a link??? Only if they took the time to click on the link, would they have seen what PP actually said, not what you twisted around. Shame on you!

How may sex fairs have you been to, Deprofundis? Were you at Tufts University? Next you'll be trashing the Vagina Monologues. You claim you've been to many sex fairs. As far as recorded phone calls, anyone can make a recording of a "supposed" conversation.

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Posted on May 22 at 4:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That is why I would encourage everyone to check out any and all information about sex ed. Ask your child's physician. Visit the PP website and their teenwire website.

Of course I want my child to wait until marriage to have sex, just like my parents wanted me to wait. But at age 17 I was "in love" and had intercourse. Luckily I didn't get pregnant or get an STD. But statistics are what they are. Chances are very good YOUR child is engaging in some sexual activity, be it intercourse or oral sex. Continue to preach abstinance and teach them your family values, but help teach them safety if they choose to go against your wishes, or "family values".

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Posted on May 22 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Talk about outright lies, Deprofundis!!!

You said PP: Instruct children that practically no sexual practice is wrong even urinating on one another(http://www.teenwire.com/ask/2007/as-20070712p1544-shower.php)

PP’s real answer: There's nothing inherently wrong or hurtful about this sex practice, but it is uncommon. (This was taken from the Q & A section of teenwire. Someone wanted to know what a golden shower was. She was probably too embarrassed to ask her parents! PP does not teach this!!!)

Deprofundis says PP: (again from Q & A section)
Teach children to engage, guilt free, in sexual activities and even suggests seeking professional counseling if they do feel guilt.

PP’s real answer: Many people feel guilty about sex and masturbation, but enjoying our sexuality is a normal, natural part of life. Shame and guilt can lead to difficulties in a person's sense of self-esteem and in a person's relationships with other people. Professional counseling is often helpful to relieve unnecessary shame and guilt about sexual activity.

Deprofundis says PP:
Use sexually explicit films and images in presentations

Websites provided by Deprofundis were from the American Life League. Could not prove or disprove as nothing about these were on any PP or PP affiliated site. More than likely propaganda by ALL.

Deprofundis says PP:
Oppose parents role in instructing their children about sex and even hide information from parents.

Again websites provided by Deprofundis were not from PP or affiliates.

Deprofundis says PP:
Distribute sex toys and coupons for pornography shops

Again, from ALL. PP never said or did this.

Deprofundis says PP:
And make sure to start teaching kids all of this as young as age 9

PP does not say to teach ANY of the things Deprofundis just listed.

If you want to list facts, please do. Facts is what would change my mind about having PP in FFCS. I have made my decision base on facts, not scare tactics.

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Posted on May 22 at 1:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

concernedmom20: I visited the "notinourschools" website. All I can say is "WOW", you people who designed or agree with your website are blind. I particularly like the parts in red on the "home" page where you twist the meanings of SIECUS statements to your liking. Here's a good one: "Sometimes the values one learns in society conflict with the values one has learned in one's family." The websites response is "[Here's the setup to undermine parental imparting of values]". How is that undermining parental values???

As a FFCS parent visiting this website for the first time, I can't believe that you think every parent out there is comfortable talking about teen sex, std's, homosexuality, anal sex, oral sex, etc.

The SADD group (STUDENTS) chose PP because they were comfortable with PP. I would think if students are comfortable with PP, that will encourage them to pay attention and learn something. Unfortunately, even after all this sex ed, some of the kids will wind up pregnant. I personally think teen pregnancy is more tied to the availability of welfare and the fact that children learn what they live. But that's for another day.

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Posted on May 22 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Amen, Dallas!
Annarondac: I miss those days, also. In our home we still have the Sunday family dinner (after church). We also all eat together, every night, at the dinner table. But I am not naive about the amount of "sex education" that bombards our children on tv, in music, on the playground, in the school bus, in gym class, etc. Nowadays, teens seem "proud" to be pregnant instead of embarrassed. I didn't grow up in the 40's folks. I grew up in the 70's. We now have kids having kids. Will they talk with their kids about sex ed? Probably not.

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Posted on May 22 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Vivavox: I visited the website "teenwire". There was absolutely NO PORN on the site. If you don't want a young child watching it, then monitor your child's internet activity. In fact, on the parents page, it states that PP believes parents should be the #1 educator for their children. "Teenwire" is there to provide medically accurate info for those teens who have parents that can't communicate with them about sex. PP doesn't go against moral family values. Visit the teenwire page on oral sex. Abstinence-only education leads teens to practice anal and oral sex because teens think they are technically "virgins" and can't get pregnant. But the risk for STD's is still there. Not many parents know all the different types of STD's and how they can be transmitted off the top of their head. Can you? PP can.

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