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May 23, 2011 Poll Results

Should the Schenectady Police Department hold open disciplinary hearings?

Yes 68% 101 votes
No 31% 46 votes
Total: 147 Votes

Note: This is not a scientific poll. The results reflect only the opinions of those who chose to participate.

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airedale1950
May 23, 2011
5:38 a.m.

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They should.....reality TV at it's finest!
Comedy!
Drama!
Slapstick!
Graft!
Undercover Operations (figuratively and literally)!
Heck, if they put the disciplinary hearings on TV in prime-time, the popularity it would generate commercial revenues that would wipe out the City deficit in one season!

pattie
May 23, 2011
9:36 a.m.

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Disciplinary hearings should be kept inhouse. Do you ever hear of General Electric, MVP or any other government municipality having open hearings, NO you don't. IF it is a criminal matter then it will be made public anyways.

howieonline
May 23, 2011
11:03 a.m.

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Pattie: Do you or I pay the salaries of MVP or GE?
I don't either. All hearings that involve my taxes should be made public. We ALL PAY FOR IT !!!

LeTendre
May 23, 2011
2:53 p.m.

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You said it "howieonline" - the taxpayers (that's you and me) pay their salaries so we should know what's going on. We've already purchased the rights to the hearings.

wmarincic
May 23, 2011
3:50 p.m.

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Innocent until proven guilty is also for a Police Officer. Unless he has been found guilty of a criminal charge it should be a private employment matter. There are dozens of state and county and city employees in NYS that have internal hearings probably daily , should we as taxpayers have to pay to make them public?

SchenectadyScott
May 23, 2011
5:01 p.m.

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The answer to wmarincic...Yes just as howieonline stated. The dozens of state, county and city employess in NYS that have internal hearings daily should all be transparent. I am not a stock holder in a private company..I am a taxpayer paying for services that serve all those within all of those tax districts they are being payed to serve out of my pocket. Innocent until proven guilty for all crimes, including those committed by those who are held to a higher standard. They take an oath and need to be held to that oath to serve and protect the people. Even Judge Kramer has to adhere to that now that his decision was overturned. Thank God for our Justice system.

wmarincic
May 23, 2011
7:16 p.m.

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Schenectadyscott if a Police Officer is accused of something as simple as using a personal cell phone (the police have police issued) should the taxpayer have to pay for a public hearing? Does it matter? If we have public hearings for internal issues the Officer loses his Constitutional rights of innocent until proven guilty because just the fact of a public hearing is accusing an officer of wrong doing.

SchenectadyScott
May 24, 2011
1:51 a.m.

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A hearing is for the benefit of the accused instead of going directly to jail paying bail and awaiting trial. I would rather pay for a hearing than years of court costs...The officers that have gone to trial in Schenectady do not have a great track record...also they would be able to keep their pension and benefits then losing them as a convicted felon...If you are doing your job there would be no call for a hearing in the first place..we would not be having this discussion if the present system was not broke and us the taxpayers along with it.....sad any way you look at it...why are our police officers going to jail in great numbers? Really sad....

MN
May 24, 2011
7:28 a.m.

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Everybody loves to hate government and all its representatives at every level. I guarantee that if a PD disciplinary hearing were open to the public, The Public would be there complaining about broken traffic lights, potholes, their neighbor's garbage. It would simply be an opportunity for John Q to vent.

Personnel matters are private matters.
The end.

SchenectadyScott
May 24, 2011
4:40 p.m.

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Not when I am paying for it...It no longer becomes personal or private...especially when someone takes on the job as a "Public Servant"..We see what has happened with a closed door policy cloaked in darkness....Nothing good comes out of darkness, just vampire bloodsuckers and demons.......ah metaphorically speaking of course...

SchenectadyScott
May 24, 2011
4:46 p.m.

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And MN...a public hearing is just that...not a 3 min. opportunity to complain about issues pertaining to city business..It means an open hearing to the public and press to report..not behind the doors where deals are made...like has been done in the past. Personal matters are not private matters when abuse of the taxpayers dollars are at hand in any form...And this will never end as long as there is darkness and back doors deals to satisfy the greed of those prone to deception and temptation for self.

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