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Should New York legalize same-sex marriage?

Yes 43% 337 votes
No 56% 446 votes
Total Votes: 783

Note: This is not a scientific poll.

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June 14, 2011
10:14 a.m.

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MDogsMom ( MDogsMom ) says...

Get the government out of the marriage business. Have ALL couples get Civil Unions and give marriages back to the churches.

June 14, 2011
10:21 a.m.

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jerryrock ( jerryrock ) says...

Until that happens... pass Marriage Equality so that all citizens of New York State receive the government rights and benefits exclusively granted married couples. End discrimination and bigotry now!

June 15, 2011
12:07 a.m.

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smith ( smith ) says...

Interesting how the numbers -- so far -- in this poll fit the numbers that have been pretty consistent right up until Cuomo started the push; now he says the polls show 60% in favor,up from 50 a few days ago. But here, it is the same as before. Does anything seem rigged?
Marriage equality exists right now. It is equal for everyone. There is nothing equal about a same-sex charade. It's an exception and not marriage and won't be. You can't screw two light-bulbs together, and it's foolish to think that would be a normal thing to do. It is not in the public interest to fund cohabitants, none of which will ever produce a child.

June 15, 2011
2:21 a.m.

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lovemysonj ( lovemysonj ) says...

There was a time in this country when black people and women were not considered "equal." Times change and you can either be hypocritical and ignorant or change with the times.

June 15, 2011
2:02 p.m.

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irene58 ( irene58 ) says...

"...won't produce a child" Is that the sole reason for 2 opposite sex folks to get married? What about adoption? The definition of "producing a child" has also changed, for same sex and opposite sex couples. Opposite sex couples who aren't married, but live together produce children, and quite often, those children and their parents are "funded" by taxpayers. That was quite an ignorant statement.

Jeez, it's disheartening to know so many are living in the long ago.

June 15, 2011
4:58 p.m.

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robbump ( robbump ) says...

So I guess all the tax benefits, rights to medical decisions, (automatic) rights to SS, insurance, pension, property etc ..... should all be withdrawn from those cohabitants in childless marriages. Why should those non-child bearing couples enjoy the benefits of a REAL MARRIAGE?? Right, "Smith"? They can go spend money at a lawyers and draw up SPECIAL agreements if they REALLY want their "spouse" to get anything - otherwise it goes to siblings and parents. THAT will show those SHAM childless marriage couples, won't it?

"It is not in the public interest to fund cohabitants, none of which will ever produce a child." - Smith

June 16, 2011
12:39 a.m.

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Johnny235 ( Johnny235 ) says...

It will be of economic value to pass same sex marriage legislation. Think about all the weddings and receptions that will take place as banquet halls get booked, flowers purchased and photographers etc. This will contribute millions to the local economies. Others licking their chops have to be matrimonial lawyers. If I was smart enough, I would get a law degree and specialize in gay divorces. Because if enough gay couples marry, more than enough will eventually get divorced. I would like to be that person who gets the retainers to divorce these gay couples. For the most part, gay couples as a rule make more money than "straight" couples, which means they will have more to spend on both their wedding and their divorces. I am not trying to be funny here, I'm being quite serious. The divorce rate is 50 percent for "straights," and conventional thinking says that it will be about the same for gays.

June 16, 2011
6 a.m.

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airedale1950 ( airedale1950 ) says...

The most difficult issue here is the legislation of morality...or the interpretation of "morality"... It's one of those questions that will never have a socially acceptable definitive right or wrong answer. Damed if you do by some, damned if you don't by others. Universally justifying religious or moral beliefs is an impossible task.
Debate just fosters more passionate negative reaction on both sides.

My personal concern, I believe same sex marriage, like inter-racial marriage contributes to a lack of diverse identity and a loss of individualization that drives many positive aspects of human development. Eventually when everything is the same...very little seems important any longer...

June 16, 2011
9:05 p.m.

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b ( b ) says...

It is time for the country to refute living under OTHER people's religious opinions and realize that marriage is a civil contract which should be allowed to all citizens in this state of New York and all other states in the nation.

June 17, 2011
8:35 a.m.

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Sparkys_Dad ( Sparkys_Dad ) says...

Hey Johnny235!
RIGHT-ON, DUDE!!

Ya know why gays have more money than the rest of us mooks?
Because they don't have KIDS!

Legalize gay marriage.
It's a cash-cow for New York State.

'Follow da money, honey!'
lol.

June 17, 2011
1:30 p.m.

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twohands ( twohands ) says...

Couldn't agree more with all the rational, thoughtful arguments FOR ss marriage here. Why is the state involved at all? Why can't all citizens have the SAME rights and benefits; married, children, gay or not? I have a childless, married, heterosexual, friend who used to go berserk when co-workers with children got special rights and dispensations - because...?!? Think about it.

June 18, 2011
12:27 a.m.

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smith ( smith ) says...

Like it or not Irene58, that is the only reason the public supports marriage. It is not ignorant; it has a purpose--unlike the aberration no one here can make a case for. And it is not the only reason I gave. There are many more, but it requires a grasp of common sense and understanding of how things are made to work.

June 18, 2011
8:37 a.m.

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WordWiz78 ( WordWiz78 ) says...

Like it or not, marriage is a state issue, not a church one. You are required to have a state-issued marriage license. You are not required to get married in a church or other religious building, or by any religious official. I'm not saying one CAN'T make religion a part of a wedding - they certainly can! - but it is not a requirement. Since we are a nation of many different religions, making marriage an issue of church rather than state would make marital equality impossible, because every religion would have different ideas about what constitutes marriage. Also, marriage would be able to afford no legal rights, as it does now, because the church cannot give legal rights to anyone. Anyone who is not religious - which is a great number of people in this country - would not be able to get married. Look at that: more discrimination.

Denial of equality based upon ethnicity, gender, age, sexual orientation, or any number of other similar factors, is clear-cut discrimination, which per federal and state statutes is illegal. If our Senate knows how to follow the law (doubtful), it MUST pass the Marriage Equality Act.

And btw, stating that gays are richer than straights because they don't have kids is a ridiculously absurd statement. First of all, I know quite a few gay couples that do not, in fact, have a lot of money, and I know a lot of straight couples (with kids) who do have a good deal of money. Second, the belief that gay couples are incapable of being parents is the very form of ignorance that is holding NYS in the Dark Ages. Ever hear of adoption? Not to mention that parents can elect to have someone else carry their child for them.

Bottom line: America is supposed to be about equality for ALL its citizens. You cannot claim to support the American way of life if you deny some citizens the same rights as others based upon their sexual orientation.

June 18, 2011
8:44 a.m.

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WordWiz78 ( WordWiz78 ) says...

btw, it's very disheartening to see how many complete bigots there are in NYS still. smith, your posts specifically show a couple lack of respect for anyone you don't understand. Marriage is not now, nor has it ever been, solely about having children (which can still happen for same-sex couples, whether through adoption or surrogates), and despite your arrogant assumptions, is not the only reason the public supports marriage. Since you don't know every person in the world, it is quite egotistical for you to speak for anyone's belief but your own. It would appear the only reason you fear marital equality for same-sex couples is that you somehow are under the delusion that you are superior to them.

June 20, 2011
8:21 a.m.

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tonijean613 ( tonijean613 ) says...

Having lived in MA for 20 yrs - before and after gay marriage was legalized- legalizing gay marriage in MA has not had one negative effect on the state or on the community as a whole nor on any individual.

For all you "Pro Lifer's" out there- I think perhaps it has saved many young gays from committing suicide now that they are no longer oppressed and are fully accepted as equal human beings and equally valuable individuals in MA society.

response to "Smith" - people are not light bulbs.

lastly, as a single, hetersexual, no kids- I'd like the same rights to a pension and health security and social security you get from being a "spouse"

perhaps if our country had medicare for all and social security and pensions for all,... gay marriage would not be so divisive an issue and divorce would not be so rapant

 

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