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Should New York state freeze the pay of state workers?

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No 27% 168 votes
Yes 72% 454 votes
Total Votes: 622

Note: This is not a scientific poll.


January 5, 2011
9:25 a.m.

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MDogsMom ( MDogsMom ) says...

State worker, ALL government workers, raises should be the same amount that Social Security recipients get. No COLA for SS recipients for TWO years, yet, NY State, federal and local taxes HAVE risen, CONSIDERABLY more!

January 5, 2011
10:20 a.m.

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howieonline ( howieonline ) says...

State is broke. I haven't seen a raise in 3 years. U N I O N S !!!

January 5, 2011
10:23 a.m.

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tgeorge12345 ( tgeorge12345 ) says...

all state workers includes executive , legislative and judicial branches as well

January 5, 2011
12:39 p.m.

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JackBeadle ( JackBeadle ) says...

We'd find greater savings by taking a hard look at how efficiently state grant dollars are awarded, administered & audited

January 6, 2011
5:11 a.m.

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airedale1950 ( airedale1950 ) says...

The problem is not with pay increases, it's with the number of people receiving the increases! State government is too big. Too many people not doing enough work, is the problem. Cut back, force people to produce efficiently or face real consequences. Make working for state government like working in the real world! If the unions don't like it...too bad. President Ronald Reagan beat the air traffic controllers in a showdown, and he did it swiftly and without hesitation. Do the same here.

...and when that is done, fillet the Teacher's Unions.

January 6, 2011
7:10 a.m.

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MN ( MN ) says...

Beat up on the state employees all you want, but be prepared to wait a little longer for your vehicle registration, for roads to get fixed, for traffic lights to be installed at dangerous intersections...for all the services that the state provides. It's like electricity. You don't realize how much service the state provides until you don't have it.

January 6, 2011
8:33 a.m.

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LeTendre ( LeTendre ) says...

Freeze their pay and reduce benefits for state workers and teachers - just like what's happening to the rest of us. It's not that they don't deserve what they have - we all deserve good benefits and pensions because we all work hard - it's what we can afford that is at issue here. These people are bleeding the rest of us (and by that I mean NYS) to death.

January 6, 2011
11:17 a.m.

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ed186 ( ed186 ) says...

I agree with the wage freeze and benifits until things get better. However, I'm old enough to remember when the economy was great and most anyone who wanted or needed a job got one. I also recall when someone started work with a Town, County, State or Federal agencies that person received sneers and jabs whith the main question being, "Why can't you get a good job like with GE, Rail Roads, Mills,schools or other Private businesses And make a good salary". Well, now look and see who has the better jobs and benifets and all is heard is blah blah blah cry cry cry. Now, when the shoe is on the other foot it's Not Fair. Now we all must work together to get this mess fixed. The old saying when money gets tight is "spend on what you NEED not on what you WANT" It will work.

January 6, 2011
9:21 p.m.

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airedale1950 ( airedale1950 ) says...

In response to MN...I can renew registrations and licenses on the net. I can count on one hand the 'dangerous intersections' that were made safer by some mysterious emergency traffic light crew in the last twenty years. A litany of former brick and mortar dependent services are being handled online these days. Attrition is too slow, and the state still hires more than they fire or retire!
Sit down one day and count the number of jobs that have been replaced by technology...then count the number of state employees still on the books....the numbers won't balance, too many people are working and producing far below cost effective production levels.
I'm tired of getting shafted by the public employee and teacher's unions...and you should be too.

January 8, 2011
6:06 p.m.

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myshortpencil ( myshortpencil ) says...

More than a freeze, public salaries above $60,000 should be rolled back 10% as a good faith start to making them truly comparable to the private sector. Private sector workers have to earn between 20% and 30% higher salaries than similarly positioned public employees to have roughly equivalent lifetime total compensation after taxes. A number of factors contribute to this from worse benefits for higher contributions, to a lack of pension portability to gaps in employment, and many more. I note that the core problem is that politicians and board members simply will not impose the equivalent discipline of the free market in negotiating the terms and wages of public employment. We are Greece in the making unless something changes.

January 11, 2011
6:36 a.m.

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mjstockman ( mjstockman ) says...

I work for the state, and I support the pay freeze. Yeah, my expenses have gone up and my money is worth less, same as yours.
Everybody talks about either cutting the number of State workers, or cutting their rate of pay. My solution is to reduce the State's payroll expenses while keeping enough people on the job to do the people's work. We actually need more $30,000 clerks; that would let us get by with fewer $50,000 professionals like myself. We need fewer $75,000 middle managers, and way, way, way fewer $100,000+ politically appointed Deputy Special Assistants, etc. That's where the waste is; the State is so top-heavy with (mis)management it's not even funny.


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