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Are smokers being treated unfairly?

Yes 50% 192 votes
No 49% 187 votes
Total Votes: 379

Note: This is not a scientific poll.

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June 24, 2010
4:42 p.m.

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jaini ( jaini ) says...

What the goverment did was dishonest and underhanded.Just because the state is broke does not give them the right to reach into our pockets illegally. I dont care if they make the laws or not,dont forget we the people of this state are broke too!,we are stressed and thats why we smoke!! it relieves our tension,and now that jerk govenor of ours just took our cigarettes away from us!!! I cant afford to smoke anymore and Iam mad as Hell

June 24, 2010
8:12 p.m.

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WordWiz78 ( WordWiz78 ) says...

While I agree that excise taxes on *anything* are not only wrong, but technically are illegal, I have to say that smokers are not otherwise treated unfairly. I find it rather unfair that smokers (as a group) think it's okay for them to smoke their cigarettes near me, polluting my lungs along with their own. If they want to give themselves cancer, fine, that's their problem (though they'd better not complain about the cost of health care). Giving me cancer, on the other hand, is completely immoral. Smokers whine that they can't smoke near hospitals, near schools, in parks - I'd like to point out that if you were to smoke near my child and give them cancer or breathing problems, the availability of places to smoke would be the least of your worries.

@ jaini: "we are stressed and thats why we smoke" - really? Because I deal with a lot of stress, too, and have never smoked. I also know many other people who deal with a ton of stress and do not feel the need to further stress their bodies from the addition of nicotine. Apparently you have never actually studied the effects nicotine has on the body, one of which is to dramatically increase the blood pressure, causing more stress - physically and mentally - on you, causing you to smoke more (or so you believe), in an endless cycle until you die. As much as I dislike our governor, maybe it will do you some good that you can no longer smoke, physically, emotionally and mentally.

June 25, 2010
10:02 a.m.

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MDogsMom ( MDogsMom ) says...

I don't smoke and I do think the smokers are being unfairly targeted. They're targeted because they're easy targets for lawmakers who don't want to cut spending. I know many smokers who are respectful about where they blow their smoke and they don't whine about having to walk to their own cars to smoke. There are a lot of luxuries people have gotten used to that in this economy we simply can't afford and things have to be cut. But, no one is brave enough to say STOP, so, taxes get piled on. If taxes on cigs were going for health care costs, I wouldn't mind. But, as generic $$ for the till, I DO mind.

June 25, 2010
1:08 p.m.

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maggy ( maggy ) says...

State budget fix

This state is in a sorry financial situation. One would have to assume that it was from all the careless waste and spending. Whatever, the situation exists, and we need a quick fix. Being a mother of three children, not always having enough income to pay all the bills…you get creative! Taxing cigarettes and violating Indian treaties is not the solution. After all, didn’t we learn anything from prohibition and history?? There could be many criminal reactions from this brainy idea. And then there will be more problems to solve, more policing, more court proceedings, and more people in prison, costing the state even more money. If I were the state, this is what I would do to try to generate more income. Start a new lottery game, and not one with odds of winning equal to getting struck by lightening, twice, while vacationing in Siberia. They could call this one the “Get Out of The Hole” game. Now I’m not a mathematician, but I’m sure the state could figure the logistics out.
Then again……. oh well anyway here is an example of how it could work:
Players pick 5 numbers say from 1 to 30. Lottery draws 10 numbers. Now the odds of winning smaller amounts to lots of people are pretty good I would think. I’d even buy a ticket. I’d be happy to win a couple of hundred dollars for a dollar, and so would many others. The winnings should be tax free under $2500. The state could split the pot 50-50 with the game. The lottery game proceeds could be split as follows, 50% goes to be divided among all the 5 number holders, 25% for 4 numbers, 15% for 3, and 10% for 2. The state could take in many millions of dollars quickly, and a LOT of New Yorkers could win a little extra cash weekly for whatever. It could even stimulate the economy! Lawmakers, you need to get creative and stop harassing smokers and Indians and raising taxes to balance your spending!

June 27, 2010
9:14 a.m.

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tgeorge12345 ( tgeorge12345 ) says...

Well, I'm not a smoker but I am still outraged at the price of cigarettes. Think about what's next. Soda, cookies, candy any nonessential food item or toiletry. Let's raise the tax on shaving cream. Men don't need to shave. Oh, let's just raise the price when women buy it. What about haircuts , pedicures, manicures. Use your imagination folks because the legislators need their raises.

Now as for the lottery--If it were used for what was first intended we wouldn't be paying school taxes. You think of a good game and the public likes it what happens to the money? Maybe the legislators get raises. My final comment REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER don't be foolish and vote in the incumbent----EVER

 

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