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Should drug tests be required of any applicant or recipient of public assistance?

Yes 77% 549 votes
No 18% 133 votes
Not sure 3% 23 votes
Total Votes: 705

Note: This is not a scientific poll.

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July 17, 2008
5:41 a.m.

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superdave1919 ( superdave1919 ) says...

I never really thought about it before, but why the hell not.....I was in the National Guard and had to submit periodic tests.....Now I work for the local power Co. and have to submit random tests.....Why should my hard earned taxes go to someone who does not have to do the same.....I guarantee if these people stop smoking weed to get their benefits, it may increase their motivation enough to want to find an alternate way to support themselves......I only pick on weed because it is the ultimate DE-motivator, and is easily picked up weeks after use.

July 17, 2008
10:01 a.m.

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dahle ( dahle ) says...

When the results come back positive, what's the next step? Do we help those people get treatment or send them on their way pretending the real issue of addiction will go away with them? Forgeting, until that issue is addressed taxpayers will still be "footing the bill" when they get arrested. Just in a different setting instead of social services and food stamps we'll pay for their incarceration, their meals, housing, and medical care. The underlying issue is addiction we MUST address that!

July 17, 2008
2:04 p.m.

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schdygirl ( schdygirl ) says...

You have a point dahle, however the first step in addressing the issue is identifying the issue. There is a horrible cycle of addicts raising future addicts-and other criminals- in this country. Possibly if one generation has expectations and consequences for not living up to those expectations, we can begin to save the next generation from being raised in this type of an environment.
Public Assistance is one option people have to have a roof over their head, pay the bills, etc. There is so much help out there for people to get on their feet and off the system. Low income people get a free ride to college, there is heat assistance, day care assistance, WIC, food stamps, etc. etc. etc. Public assistance was not designed to be a life long alternative to working and self sufficiency and therefore does not properly address the many issues involved in this complex problem.
If people choose to use public services, I see nothing wrong with rules and expectations attached to those services. Police officers, firemen, bus drivers, doctors and any other group that works with our children and society in general are required to submit to drug tests. If people are raising children and using public funds to do it, they should be as accountable as everyone else.
If they do pop positive on a test, we can identify the problem and offer a different type of social program that is currently available to people such as rehab, parenting classes, job training, etc. I am tired of providing care to the perpetual victims of the world-and this is coming from a liberal!
So I have to admit this is the second time that Superdave and I agree on an issue!

July 17, 2008
2:57 p.m.

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superdave1919 ( superdave1919 ) says...

lol....thnx Schdygirl....although your version is much more articulate....

July 18, 2008
10:51 a.m.

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sherrilee ( sherrilee ) says...

i think if results come back positive, then make them work community service, or help the community in a positive way to pay back medical costs, or whatever assistance they have been on.

July 18, 2008
11:59 a.m.

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schdygirl ( schdygirl ) says...

Yeah Superdave, but you coined the phrase "...weed ... is the ultimate DE-motivator..." Awesome statement and so true...it motivated me to be articulate!

July 18, 2008
6:14 p.m.

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yvettemwood06 ( yvettemwood06 ) says...

honestly do we need people threatening to take away our children because we smoked a joint, just because we need some emergency food stamps or temporary medical assistance. come on. it's ridiculous to me. require them to comply as they always have. such as work readiness programs etc. not!!! pay back medical. how foolish is that. test for alchol. I see more alcholics running around doing nothing. da if they have a history of abusing drugs stop paying thousands and thousands of dollars to put them in rehab places they go in and do drugs immediately after coming out.

July 19, 2008
11:14 a.m.

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NobleFire ( NobleFire ) says...

If you apply for a job in the private sector, you may have to submit to a drug test. If you apply for a county job you have to submit to a drug test. This is about rights. Taxpayers have a right to have their tax dollars spent in a certain way. Many taxpayers have spoken and they want accountability in public assistance. If people dont want to submit to a drug test, that means that their likely to be on drugs. I say too damn bad. Its time to stop treating this country like a fairy tale world and do atleast what the taxpayers want.

July 19, 2008
7:27 p.m.

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dahle ( dahle ) says...

Fairy tale is right. A fairy tale if you believe you won't be "footing the bill" when they get arrested. Their housing, food, shelter, and medical if the disease is not dealt with! Wake up people open your eyes to addiction! Taking advantage of public assistance is a symptom, and side effect, just like the crime, violence, and guns in our streets. If nothing changes, nothing will change!

July 19, 2008
10:16 p.m.

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dahle ( dahle ) says...

Untreated substance abuse and addiction add significant costs to families and communities, including those related to violence and property crimes, prison expenses, court and criminal costs, emergency room visits, healthcare utilization, child abuse and neglect, lost child support, foster care and welfare costs, reduced productivity, and unemployment.The cost to society of illicit drug abuse alone is $181 billion annually. When combined with alcohol and tobacco costs, they exceed $500 billion including healthcare, criminal justice, and lost productivity. Successful drug abuse treatment can help reduce these costs in addition to crime, and the spread of HIV/AIDS, hepatitis, and other infectious diseases. It is estimated that for every dollar spent on addiction treatment programs, there is a $4 to $7 reduction in the cost of drug-related crimes. With some outpatient programs, total savings can exceed costs by a ratio of 12:1.

July 20, 2008
4:47 p.m.

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ednatee ( ednatee ) says...

most people that apply for welfare go there because they have no JOB...JOB....JOB.....NO EMPLOYMENT.....schenectady for the millionth time, is NOT attracting enough employers ...so many have left....
is it necessary to fire off rockets to get the leaders attention??? everyone has been saying this for years and years and while some companies have come here,think of all the companies that have left.....what a joke!

July 20, 2008
8:47 p.m.

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superdave1919 ( superdave1919 ) says...

ednatee?....what does that have to do with the survey question?

July 21, 2008
9:15 a.m.

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dahle ( dahle ) says...

To learn more about what addicts really need watch SACC TV-16 Tuesday nights at 8PM INSIDE ADDICTION!

 

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