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What is the best way for state government to save taxpayers money?

Restructure Medicaid 22% 147 votes
Renegotiate benefits for employees and retirees 19% 124 votes
End Empire Zone program and industrial development agencies 8% 56 votes
Enact a "millionaire's tax" 36% 233 votes
Other (use comment box to specify) 13% 84 votes
Total Votes: 644

Note: This is not a scientific poll.

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August 3, 2008
7:31 a.m.

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coachmike (no real name given) says...

Correct the abusive way "welfare system " is handled, get rid of the ones who use this as a generation of benefits, that live off of this,get those to get out and work to make up for those who pay higher taxes to support those who dont want to work or make up some excuse not to work. In Gods word it says " if you dont work ,you should not work" for those who can but dont want to because of laziness.

August 5, 2008
4:10 a.m.

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coachmike (no real name given) says...

correction of my statement. " if you dont work, you should not eat " .

August 5, 2008
12:29 p.m.

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PKlotzJr (no real name given) says...

Eat the rich.

August 5, 2008
2:49 p.m.

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annarondac ( Patricia Ann Wadsworth ) says...

I see there are more votes for taxing the rich. Do you know that the upper 20% of wage earners and mainly the upper 4% of the wealthy support 80% of all the schools and social programs, for those that need them and those that don't. So the American Dream of getting rich is dead, because if one is so lucky to have "Made it in America" they are punished by having to support all these social programs.

Outside of the state, look who is giving you jobs. It's the wealthy and corporations. Do you want socialism or do you want a free nation of workers?

August 5, 2008
4:36 p.m.

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nycvoter (no real name given) says...

Restructure our tax system so that it is not a regressive Tax, but a progressive tax. On the face of it, yes this is raising taxes, but it is actually TAX RELIEF and redistribution and yes, would probably involve re-instituting some kind of tax on the wealthiest 1% (or millionaire's tax).

August 6, 2008
2:07 p.m.

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Tibbers1983 (no real name given) says...

Well honestly the people on welfare do need it some do abuse the power but as a single mother of one who has graduated from school and receives benefits from the system and is trying to make it somewhere and holds high expectations for herself i feel that no one should be able to comment on that situation unless they have worn those shoes. You should not cut or play with the Walfare System because of the people who have children and really do need the help for the time being and there already is a plan you can only stay on Public assistance for 5 years and dont think they dont keep up on there clients cause they do Social Services isent free because they will take your spouse for child support and they keep the money for payment of the services we receive so before you request for that spacific thing to be cut do your research on it and out of all the other programs and unneccesary stuff you had to pick that thats out of control so pick on the poor not here pick on the rich i am so for it lol

August 6, 2008
6:19 p.m.

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annarondac ( Patricia Ann Wadsworth ) says...

My dear Tibbers, If you think for one moment that I have no right to comment on your position, when I pay royally into the system that supports you, think again. Sometime in the distant past, people got married, THEN had children when they thought they ready. When people made mistakes, families pulled together, and made it work, they didn't ask the government to pay their way.

May I ask you one question. Are you planning for your future when your five year sabbatical is finished?

August 6, 2008
8:48 p.m.

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GVilleResident (no real name given) says...

I think all of the options should be utilized !

August 7, 2008
11:33 a.m.

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schdygirl (no real name given) says...

I can understand everyone's passion about the welfare system. What it was designed for is certainly what it is not being used for. I am not going to defend it as I can certainly admit that it needs a complete overhaul to redirect the 2nd and 3rd generations of family members who use this system as a lifestyle rather than a means to get to the next step in life.
However, I am also not going to sit here and say that all of our financial issues come from this system. When a major corporation needs tax dollars, it is called a bail out, but when families need it we call it welfare. Airline companies, amtrak, fannie may and freddie mac, etc., etc., etc., have all used our hard earned dollars and to me that is the biggest welfare fraud we have going. So instead of blaming only the little people taking it in dribs and drabs, lets place some of the blame on the major corporations who are taking it by the billions!

August 7, 2008
5:07 p.m.

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annarondac ( Patricia Ann Wadsworth ) says...

I hear ya, schdygirl, but I'm not going to let anyone tell me what to discuss, especially if I'm a big contributor. I don't agree with the bail outs either. We don't need more taxes on the rich, we need to make our government smaller, let people suffer their defeats and then they LEARN and probably won't make the same mistake again. We need to turn our society back to responsibility, instead of victimhood.

August 8, 2008
8:28 a.m.

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schdygirl (no real name given) says...

I completly agree with you annarondac, the little bit of control we do have left is with our voice so go ahead and discuss away!
We all have choices in this world and there are consequences for those choices, whether they are good or bad. I have spent my entire time as a mother trying to teach this to my children. I hate the victimization in this society. You are so right, I to think that when people are allowed to suffer their defeats they can hopefully learn and grow from the experience. Everyone on this planet can tell a sad story and has had bad experiences. I tell my kids whatever they do is a mistake only if they dont learn from it.
And for Tibbers, I have walked in your shoes. Had a baby all alone at a young age. It took me 9 years to get a 4 year degree, while working and taking care of my kid, but I did it. If you are going to take from the system at least spend the time wisely, getting an education so you can stop the cycle for the generation that you are creating.

August 8, 2008
4:16 p.m.

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Scott4Jesus ( Scott Riggi ) says...

For my self a homeowner in Schenectady,
restructuring and breaking the Schenectady PBA. With a reasonable contract. As it is now to retire at half salary for life, including health insurance. Absurd.
And to BREAK THE TEACHER'S UNION. That huge building on Rt. 7 is a monument to what we pay in taxes. Consistent when there is a vote, when it is rejected they pull out the cutting "Sports" cutting "Arts". Then they get their way. We are heading to socializing medicine because of both of these entities that lobby the state. There is no middle class. Thank you NYSUT Thank you PBA!

August 8, 2008
8:28 p.m.

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kelberts ( Andrea Keller ) says...

How come no one says we should simply CUT every state agency budget?? Not limit the annual increase, but actually CUT. I bet all of them could do with 10% less money than last year if they were forced to.

Problem solved.

August 9, 2008
12:36 p.m.

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Rick ( richard robie ) says...

NYS's budget is $116 BILLION, of which $45 Bil is for Health and WELFARE and $38 Bil for Education.

WELFARE - Public Assistance should not be a gift.
The able bodied should have to exchange their labors for support.
If they have children, the agency can find day care.
If there are health issues, the agency can expedite medical care.
If the recipient is depressed, the agency can get them mental health care.
If the client cannot go to a workplace, the agency can arrange a situation where they can work from home.
Recipients of government funds should be evaluated and should be considered for entry level government jobs by the agency.
If nothing else can be found, the state should rip out all of the automated answering systems that want one to (Press 1) and let the financially dependent answer the phones with a real human voice.

RIGHTS? Absolutely, but R E S P O N S I B I L I T Y first!

EDUCATION -

Establish a system which eliminates duplication and administers county-wide services instead of having scores of non-teachers weighing down the budget. Taxpayers can no longer afford to carry a gaggle of overseers who expect pay rates that are 3 or 4 times their own incomes.

Determine the graduation rate of each school district and multiply the salaries of the county administrators by the percentage of students who graduate to establish their NEW salary scale.

The state should establish rates for the state's contribution to teachers/aides base salaries that the voters may elect to supplement.

While we are considering paring, remember that the cost of paying for 20 million illegal aliens who have taken residence in the US amounts to $338 BILLION DOLLARS per year (that's $12,100 in taxpayer money for every illegal). As much as $22 billion of that is paid for by the states for Health Care, Welfare, Education, Legal Services, like police, courts, prison, etc.

If NYS enforces the existing laws, the illegals will leave for a more hospitable climate and the state will have a surplus without cutting jobs, making welfare recipients work or schools responsible for what they produce.

Just think if we did both . . .

August 9, 2008
2:04 p.m.

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Rick ( richard robie ) says...

DUMB POLL -

Did these choices come from someone in the legislature?

Renegotiate benefits for employees and retirees

How would you renegotiate with retirees? Have them return to their former job and push everyone back in grade to make room for them? They already worked a lifetime to establish what they will need to survive for the rest of their lives and have no way to increase their income to make up for any cuts.
Would you have them eat dog food?

Enact a "millionaire's tax"

Millionaires do not sit around counting their gold, like Scrooge McDuck. They invest in companies that make or do things and create jobs. Raise their taxes and they invest in Tax-Frees that don't create jobs. Worse, the other company has to cut jobs, making the attempt to punish the rich a double whammy for the middle class worker and taxpayer.

 

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