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Bad bar? Say 'bye-bye'

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The city of Schenectady may let a lot of minor quality-of-life problems slide, but it appears to be doing a decent job zeroing in on some of the big ones. The recent crackdown on problem bars, subject of a story in Friday’s paper, is one such example. Within the past two years, the city — in conjunction with the State Liquor Authority — has managed to shutter six of seven bars responsible for more than ...

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pnotto
October 20, 2013
4:24 a.m.

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Problem bars and other establishments have always been a problem in city of Schenectady. Many of those once famous problem spots included The Landmark Tavern (Germania Ave. and Albany St.), The Hilltop Tavern at 837 Albany St., Kittles which was a few doors down the way on Albany St. near Hulett St., Rody's Tavern on Albany St. between B'wine Ave. and Kelton. Avenues, Marty's Bar and Grill on Crane St, Le Sons on State St. hill between Nott Terrace and Close St., The Casa Mia on Barrett St. next to the former Luigi's Restaurant, Sport's World Sorts Bar and Grill on upper state St. in the Woodlawn section of the city, Frenchie's Tavern on Congress St. and many more establishments that kept the First and Third Platoon's busy on the weekends especially in the warmer months but even more so during the colder months when everyone is inside these establishment only going outside of the building to either smoke a cigarette or relieve oneself because the bathrooms are filled with other patrons. Having served for twenty-one years as a cop in this city in my zones it was always an area of concern for the other zone operators and myself in these zones we patrolled on the First and Third platoon's. These bars I have mentioned and others in the city saw everything in calls for service from assaults to stabbings to shots fired to even homicides that would tie up a number of officers and zone cars leaving the other areas of the city unprotected and the criminals know this because they even listen to scanners. The more problems that we had with an establishment the more the chance of illicit drug dealing was occurring which made the violent altercations happen more frequently. As a zone operator on the Third Platoon it was one of my primary responsibilities to check on and inspect the bars in my zone especially the ones that were more troublesome and drained the department in resources and man power in calls for service.
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pnotto
October 20, 2013
4:25 a.m.

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Just as it was to do boring responsibilities like checking the parking when the weather turned colder it is still part of your daily activities that can head off a number of problems down the road. For the guys on the job now who I broke in all those many years ago who are zone operators today and for those junior officers who have zones of their own and are not sure what to do I suggest what worked best for the zone operators and myself back then will still work today. On the shifts that I mentioned earlier in this posting, earlier in the week starting on Sunday, Monday's and Tuesday's when the call volume is slow and the bars are not so crowded, personally go into the different establishments in your zones and visually inspect these establishments. Tell the dispatcher that you will be off at said establishment "Checking the Property". Try to get a patrol supervisor to go with you and have a second and third officer with you (if you are in a one man car), so that no false complaints are made by different patrons or staff of the bar and that you have proper back up. Look for the proper paper work and licenses displayed in the front window that is not obstructed by other items. The view into the establishment has to be non-obstructed so the activity inside the bar can be seen from the street and sidewalk. If the window is obstructed make a note of it and make the bartender take down any of the obstructing material. Talk to the bar tender and then card this person to see they are of legal age to be working there and also make note of his/her name to be included in the SLA referral (if a report is warranted) and for future reference. Walk around the bar then ask for identification of different patrons who may or may not be of legal age. By doing this many people who have had outstanding warrants have been arrested in these different establishments.

pnotto
October 20, 2013
4:26 a.m.

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Inspect the bathrooms even if they are occupied and by doing this many misdemeanor and felony arrests were made by other officers and myself ranging from drug possession and use to weapons possession. When inspecting the women's bathrooms have the bartender turn off the music and make sure the establishment is quieted down then make sure this lavatory is unoccupied. If the lady's room is occupied make sure the female patron knows who you are and have her come out of the bathroom and have the second officer with you keep and eye on her in case any contraband is located. If you have a female officer available have her with you in case this situation arises. Have the bartender inspect the bathrooms with you and other areas of the bar to make sure they see any violations that maybe present. If you see any violations advise the bartender and/or the owner and write up an SLA referral and make numerous copies in case the original doesn't make it to the proper authorities. By doing this as I stated earlier can head off numerous problems down the road and it will make the establishment owners run a clean and efficient business and most importantly it will make these business staffers and owners aware that they have an eye on them. This has always been an area of sensitivity because many different people in authority, on the job or other person(s) of interest have friends and family members who own different restaurants and/or taverns in the city who may have their feathers ruffled if you inspect their establishment so the best advice I was always told by old-timers in my day is to do your job and you have to use your discretion because the last time I checked that is still part of the job. Lastly make sure you do this in accordance with the department's rules and regulations to avoid getting jammed up.

cfield
October 20, 2013
9:45 a.m.

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1048!

pnotto
October 20, 2013
11:13 a.m.
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gina99
October 20, 2013
2:25 p.m.

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The City is doing a great job of creating more empty properties and adding to the tax foreclosure list. Keep the implosion going.

wmarincic
October 20, 2013
3:52 p.m.
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pnotto
October 20, 2013
4:55 p.m.
(Comment was removed by moderator for not meeting the Daily Gazette's community standards.)
reader1
October 21, 2013
9:44 a.m.

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and these last few comments have what to do with problem bars?

wmarincic
October 21, 2013
10:14 a.m.

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The continuous attacks by cfield over the last year or so. It gets old B. I don't like being attacked and I won't accept being attacked, he did not go after me in this post but in dozens of others he did. Between me and you I apologize for the post I probably should not have posted that because it does nobody any good but he caught me at a bad moment that brought back all of his past attacks.

wmarincic
October 21, 2013
11:05 a.m.

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Reader1 I had the Gazette remove it.

reader1
October 21, 2013
11:25 a.m.

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Same would apply to cfield's 9:45am comment. If it's off topic or a personal attack - has no business here.

pnotto
October 21, 2013
9:10 p.m.

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Why don't you ID yourself then cfield? You don't have the testicles to do so because once everyone knows who you are we can then have a discussion of what a POS you were on the job...

reader1
October 22, 2013
3:47 a.m.

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pnotto u do know that cfield may not always be the same person don't you?

better to contact the Gazette and have them remove it, rather than let someone get under your skin and turn the site into a graffiti wall.

cfield
October 22, 2013
8:35 p.m.

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Posted on September 1 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Mr. Will1960; Yesterday you asked me for information that I had another blogger on this site. I will not release that or any other info that I have learned about someone else through personal knowledge or contacts that I have made over the years. My sources are my own and I have cultivated them through many years of contact. Though I say this you will believe that I am grandstanding. That is your right to believe that. As far as personal attacks, you have participated in them as well, my friend so you are not innocent of this crime either. You are right these posting have gotten out of control and way to personal and before any person does post anything here they should think about what they are going to say before they write any posting in anger or any other emotions take over. Doing so with a clear head and conscious.
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pnotto
October 23, 2013
12:18 a.m.

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As long as there is breath emitting from me I'll continue to challenge and go after the ideology of the nit wits who are reader1 and cfield to prove them as phonies and hypocrites...

pnotto
October 23, 2013
12:29 a.m.

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I know who you are cfield and I know who you are reader1. Though not impressed with two lunk-heads in anyway. Rearder1 comes off as a know-it-all but knows nothing and cfield is a child that never grew up...So if you desire to continue the verbal assaults please continue and I will return volley...

reader1
October 24, 2013
8:07 a.m.

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Well, you're certainly good at name calling...

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