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Abortion foes are wrong about when a fetus can feel pain Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) recently advanced the “Pain Capable Unborn Child Protection Act.” This legislation is similar to that passed by the Republican-led House earlier this year and would ban abortions after 20 weeks except in cases of rape, incest with a minor, or in order to save the life of the pregnant woman. If passed, the act would result in up to five ...


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jjhehir
November 18, 2013
10:35 p.m.

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Pain or not, it's still killing a baby
J. J. Hehir

Phils2008
November 19, 2013
5:48 a.m.

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Don, "The Republican Party continues its strategy to involve government in a women’s medical decisions" Are you serious? Your party is now involved in everyone's medical decisions and you have the nerve to write this tripe? All the Republican party wants to do is give the unborn a fighting chance at life. Your sanctimony aside, what if you're wrong? Stop the heart? Last time I checked, stopping another creatures heart is killing. You libs don't believe a cold blooded murderer should be executed. Its inhuman. We don't have a right to take another persons life, bla bla bla, but an unborn child, hell no problem. Do you lefties possess any rational cohesive thought at all?

tonijean613
November 19, 2013
10:01 a.m.

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Phils2008, Who is going to take care of all these "unwanted pregnancies" whether born healthy or born severely deformed or brain dead, to only "live" in a permanent vegetative state? I don't see the good in forcing a fetus to be born into a life of pure hell and torture. As far as I know, there is no such waiting list of "pro-lifers" anxious to adopt such sick newborns. Pro-lifers are not even lined up to adopt the healthy "LIVING' kids currently lingering in State Institutions, and group homes. In NYS alone there are thousands of kids waiting for adoption. IMO GOP/"pro-lifers" are the hypocrites -bec they push to stop abortions and ban common sense birth control but when such babies are actually born severely disabled (mentally or physically) or into poverty, the GOP push to cut food and social programs to help them live. How cruel. And probably most "pro-lifers" have never personally been faced with the MANY serious medical conditions that can arise in pregnancy-so there is a level of ignorance to contend with on top of the hypocracy. GOP/Pro-lifers need to stay out of personal medical decisions and reproductive lives and the new Affordable Care Act MUST force insurance companies to include access to birth control pills and abortion and it's imperative that our Govt expand social security programs- not cut them.

Phils2008
November 19, 2013
5:49 p.m.

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Sorry tonijean613, if they're "unwanted" pregnancies then they should never have happened. Irresponsibility, lack of consequences, and lack of morality that is the culture of the left, account for the majority of these pregnancies. You dont force a fetus to be born, you allow it to be born. You grant it the same chance at life that you have had. You have nothing showing Republicans banning birth control. Pure hyperbole. Conservatives dont believe the Government should be forcing others to pay for your birth control. You say Pro-Lifers, who are being forced to pay for the immature and irresponsible, need to stay out of personal decisions and then you call on the government to force them to pay for it. You epitomize hypocrisy. What do you know about conservatives and difficult pregnancies? Do you liberals ever get tired of just throwing crap in the wind. What we need the Government to do is force liberals to accept responsibility for what they do, then we'll see how fast these issues resolve themselves.

wmarincic
November 19, 2013
5:49 p.m.

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I know tonijean that you support infanticide and the murder of babies but maybe you should watch these.
http://www.liveaction.org/

tplansing
November 20, 2013
1:54 p.m.

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Ms. Baum, I have to agree with your article on the Affordable Healthcare Act (ACA). You have hit the nail on the head.

It is my impression, that our present president of the United States (POTUS) is trying to play God, by limiting the length a person's life by their health status. That is to say that if they are suffering from any disease, handicapped, or any combination of both, the "ACA" would target them as no longer useful, and prevent them from getting the advanced medical care they need to sustain life.

No! I don't know about you and your family! I know that I would not want anyone to discontinue the healthcare for my wife or I for any reason, just because some jackass in Washington said so! And that would go especially for my wife of 39 years. I would fight that one tooth and nail to keep her alive whatever it took, unless it could be proven that she was beyond curing, and would be a vegetable for the rest of her natural life, and not medically inducted!

There are too many items in this so called Affordable Care Act that: 1. was never read by the Congress prior to their signing this piece of garbage. and 2. was never put before the public prior to the its signing. That was a smooth move by Nancy Pelozi and her regime of Democrats who would jump into a pool of acid if she told them too!

This entire bill is built on a bunch of lies that the president and his family, congress, and their assistants do not have to take part in. Why is that? Is it because Congress and those who in the know, know that the ACA is really a way to bilk more money out of the middle-class citizens? Tell me? Who else is going to pay for this? You can't be seriously thinking that the Rich and Famous or the Poor are going to be paying for, now do you? That would be ridiculous to even think of! The only one who is going to really make money on this bill are the President and those Democratic Congressmen and women who supported the bill to see to it, it was pushed through in the darkness of night. Paying your fair share? Why doesn't Obama pay the bill for us? He can afford it! My 2¢, not that it means anything!

ChuckD
November 20, 2013
9:12 p.m.

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How would Jesus handle psychological projection?

tonijean613
November 23, 2013
7:35 a.m.

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Phils2008 - GOP and so called Religious Freedom" pushers have been working TIRELESSLY to ban access to birth control now being covered in the ACA/ObamaCare - they are claiming that denying OTHER women access is their religious freedom - go figure that one out- And perhaps it is not clear to you that "unwanted" does not always mean "Preventable" - how does a child prevent a rape?

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