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Mandatory living wage would save N.Y. headaches, cash

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Mandatory living wage would save N.Y. headaches, cash On May 19, I read Dorian T. Warren’s op-ed, “Gatsby vs McJobs,” with its discussion about a living wage. A living wage — a wage that allows people to feed, clothe and warm their families without help from the government. A wage that allows people to participate in homeownership, perhaps. A wage that could build community pride and strength. After all, if you don’t have to work ...


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janesjoys
June 2, 2013
4:32 a.m.

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Can't wait for the responses to Walz and Vanbumble. Appreciate your words.

wmarincic
June 2, 2013
7:07 a.m.

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Janice Walz if you did some actual research you would see that not only has Wal Mart committed to hiring 100,000 Vets you would alsuo see that their average salary is over $43,000 per year. http://www.glassdoor.com/Hourly-Pay/Walm............................................................................................................................

Funny janesjoy wants to use RINO's (Republicans in name only) like Bob "on the public" Dole and John {McSame) McCain who are more liberal Democrat than Republican. Although janesjoys is stuck in her fantasy world where she believes that there is much difference between Republicans and Democrats. I vote conservative as both of the other parties will destroy America as they are filled with actual communists and self serving egomaniacs. The only hope for America at this stage of the game is "TERM LIMITS" without them we will continue to spiral down. Every day we are losing more freedoms, paying more tax, losing more control of our own lives and our children's lives while paying almost 70% of our earnings to the government in taxes and fees.

muggy
June 2, 2013
7:14 a.m.

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"A living wage — a wage that allows people to feed, clothe and warm their families without help from the government."

That sounds so nice. Meanwhile, it takes the jackboot enforcers in government to place their collective boots on the throat of private enterprise to enforce your so-called "living wage." This idea will EXPAND government, not reduce it. And what would you propose for a "living wage?" $15/hr? $20/hr? $50/hr?

These things are arbitrary. The amounts are decided by people who are very distant from the process; with no concept of a business's cost/price structure. These are socialist ideals.

What's wrong with the invisible hand of capitalism, deciding between two willing parties, the appropriate price for a given product? The buyer feels it better to part with his money for a product, while the seller feels the money is a better deal for his business.

I'm talking about LIBERTY. This concept is anathema to people like you who support a "living wage."

janesjoys
June 2, 2013
8:11 a.m.

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wmarincic - Thank you for always translating my words in ways that I never seen to be able to express by myself! You have great insight into my thoughts. What is is I want to use RINOs for?

ChuckD
June 2, 2013
12:19 p.m.

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muggy - "That sounds so nice"
Why is it that it sounds like you hate those not as fortunate as perhaps you are? These are your fellow Americans (I'm assuming you are too). That kind of condescension reeks of unamerican. I guess you're not aware of that?
The knee-jerk response to this kind of criticism is to say you "love" the less fortunate and want them to work hard to pick themselves up, which is laughable in it's simplicity. As if all the less fortunate were just not working hard enough. In fact the vast, vast majority are actively looking for work, or have issues that legitimately affect how employable they are. Our society will be judged by how we treat the less fortunate among us. Does that matter to you?
The second myth you seem to express is that the "invisible hand of capitalism" will somehow make us all a balanced prosperous society. Of course to believe that is to completely deny the reality of the finance industry's deregulation (and I agree that Clinton had much to do with that so please don't try to cloud the issue with that worn-out noise).
What continues to shock me is the common thread running through yours and others with this now all-too-predictable reaction, is one of greed and the 'I got mine', walled community attitude. And right now America really needs to have the business community's participation. Put in Capitalist terms, we need to get more people spending money buying the widgets. Otherwise it's just another government welfare program to keep giving handouts to business.

wmarincic
June 2, 2013
1:56 p.m.

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Unfortunately there must have been a glitch when I sent the message this morning as what I wrote was jumbled. Janesjoys, Dole is a Rhino so what he says has no meaning, I'm a conservative. The repubs and dems are cut from the same cloth now days and both are anti American and in some cases actual communists. The only thing that will save us is Term Limits.

gina99
June 2, 2013
4:58 p.m.

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A "living wage" means no job for thousands trying to find a first position and more corporate flight from tax hell NYS. What about the worst President in history Vanbumble? And no call for the removal of the worst Speaker in Assembly history from you or the paper? It's funny to hear the nonsense attacks on the House of Representatives who are keeping a demigod in check. Wish we had some local checks and balances on local Democratic pork barrel spending.

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