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Mandela may have been a great man, but he wasn’t a saint

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Mandela may have been a great man, but he wasn’t a saint Regarding the hagiographic commentary on Nelson Mandela Dec. 14 [from the Albuquerque Journal], we should remember that the miracle of Mandela is that he was a human being, not a saint. South Africans are first to point this out because they are proud that one of their own had the dedication to a single cause, persistence in the face of a brutal regime, ...


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Phils2008
December 21, 2013
8:40 a.m.

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Daniel, the Republicans had a number of ideas to improve the system and the Democrats would have none of it. Why, because the plan from the start was a single payer system that the Government would run. It would be just one more program created to ensure a broader spectrum of dependency under Democrat rule. Dont think for one minute that people like Don care that the people they send to Washington don't have a shred of integrity. He will dismiss the lies, the scandals and the cover-ups to ensure a handout. Yes Obama lied, Reid and Pelosi lied, and all the Democrats like Schumer and Gillibrand promoted the lie to the American people to get it passed. The People that knew it was destructive, knew it was a lie and knew it was bad for America, were and are branded obstructionists. I guess the march to Socialism and self destruction should go forward unabated. If Cruz and Paul can stand firm against a liberal media and vitriolic left maybe that large tract of populace will yet be saved.

ronzo
December 21, 2013
5:56 p.m.

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Daniel: The ACA was passed by a feeble Democrat controlled Congress, and a weak White House that didn’t have the guts to legislate Medicare Part E, as in "E" for everyone in this country. That's what made it truly a poor piece of legislation. I am angered that the Wall St. oriented insurance companies have no problem making a profit from my health or lack of health, at my expense, to feed their profits that deny me and my family medical services, allowing only services that they decide I will receive, for their egregious premiums. Hopefully these “glitches” and ACA implementation missteps will be for the good, and Americans will realize that healthcare for all, what the no backbone Democrats couldn’t accomplish is in the best interests of America and will come to fruition. It would not surprise me if all these faux-pas are intentional as an after the fact realization that the dumb Democrats and dumber Obama administration finally realizes the consequences of not passing a single payer health care law.

Phils2008
December 21, 2013
6:38 p.m.

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Right Ronzo. Who exactly is that single payer? Is that just some abstraction to you?
When you lefties extend benefits to illegals you will literally crush that single payer guy. You know, that middle class guy who's working his a@# off to pay all the other stinking tax dollars you're bleeding out of him. The only people that still think this is in the best interest of the country are the diehard lemmings who swear Obama really is the Messiah.

ronzo
December 21, 2013
7:42 p.m.

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Phils2008: The cost of health care for all should be born by EVERYONE. And that includes all the corporations and multi-billionaires who hide their assets in places outside the USA, avoiding their share of contribution that you, me and others, are responsible for, and pay willingly or unwillingly, because our tax laws favor them, and not you and me. As a result, that burdens people like you and me. We make our contribution while just trying to scratch out living, while paying our unfair share of the cost to keep EVERYONE in America somewhat like our Founders might have hoped we could all be. So the single payer is US – as in the U.S.A. – all of US.

Phils2008
December 22, 2013
6:55 a.m.

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ronzo, it should be born by all of us because you say it should? Again you manifest some "right" simply because you want something. Then because you cant pay for that something you want, you decide I should help you pay for it. I have a right to protect myself. That's a health issue. I want a gun and I think you should help pay for that. Why is that different? Oh yea now I remember. You people on the left decide what our rights are, not the Constitution. A right to a lefty is synonymous with want. It's just about time that lefties pay for lefty wants and let the rest of us alone..

wmarincic
December 22, 2013
7:43 p.m.

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Ronzo the top 10% pay 70% of the taxes now. How about we go to a flat tax system with zero deductions. You libs love to throw that crap around that the top earners don't pay their fair share. It sounds good to the clueless but it is untrue. Why is success such a bad word now? When I grew up success was the goal. There is more than enough income generated by the useless government in taxes to have free healthcare for all. Lets cut the duplicate and crap programs. Lets stop with all of the giveaways to foreign governments that hate us. Lets take cable tv out of the prisons and those on welfare. Lets get rid of the teachers and public employee unions for everyone other than law enforcement and fire because of lawsuits. Lets just cut wasted spending, but you libs won't do that because that us the only way your people get votes.

ronzo
December 23, 2013
7 a.m.

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wmarincic: the top 10% pay 70% of the taxes because they earn more than the bottom 70%. And there's all those corporations that are on welfare - they pay NO taxes but receive government services that you and I pay for. I totally agree with you about giveaways to foreign governments, cable TV in prisons, and ALL municipal worker unions including fire and police workers. What makes cops and firefighters so special? It's just a public service job. They scam the pension system the same as the ditch digger. I'm all for cutting wasted spending not only at the federal level, but especially at the local level, where the duplicate and crap programs are everywhere and the waste is encouraged by people of all political affiliations, especially here in upstate NY which is mostly hypocrite Republican. Since I agree a lot with you, what does that make you? A liberal by association?

BROBERTS1
December 23, 2013
8:21 a.m.

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Ronzo, What makes ccps and firefighters so special? Who runs into your burning house to save your family? Who do you call when you hear someone breaking into your house? Who shows up when your wife & kids are hurt in an accident?

wmarincic
December 23, 2013
8:34 a.m.

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The police and fire because they are in life and death situations every day. They are being sued constantly because they are being blamed for doing something or being blamed that they didn't do something.

ronzo
December 23, 2013
8:51 a.m.

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So you guys favor an exception to the pension system scam. It's OK for cops and firefighters to scam the taxpayers, but not OK for anyone else who performs a municipal job. And those unions. They're OK for cops and firefighters but no one else? That's a double standard. All municipal workers are equal in that regard. No exceptions. No wonder why we disagree. You are inconsistent.

BROBERTS1
December 23, 2013
9:15 a.m.

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Ronzo, You think every cop & firefighter scams the system? My dad worked as a city firefighter for 25 years for Schenectady and his pension is hardly enough for my mom to get by on. You put all firefighters & cops in the same group as a small few that do scam the system.

ronzo
December 23, 2013
10:02 a.m.

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BROBERTS1: I do not believe that all firefighters and cops scam the system. I do put firefighters and cops in the same group as other municipal workers relative to unions in response to wmarincic's statement about public employee unions that scam the taxpayers. And they are allowed and even encouraged by municipal leaders to get away with it. That's the hypocrisy about the right wing local government leaders and their followers here in upstate NY who create, sponsor, perpetuate and refuse to give up their big bloated multi-levels of local government, have no problem stuffing their bloated government cost to the taxpayers, yet loudly voice their opposition to the largesse of the Federal government. Hypocrites.

Phils2008
December 23, 2013
6:15 p.m.

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ronzo, who are all these right wing local Government leaders? Seems to me Albany Schenectady and Troy are, and have been, run by Democrats for as long as I can remember. Unions scamming the taxpayers do so because they vote Democrat. Their power is derived from the vote they promise Democrat politicians. The hypocrite here is the guy trying to put this on the right. Living in dream land doesn't change the fact that unions are the liberals money trough. And before you start bashing fireman and Policemen, just remember you lefties dont want anyone to protect themselves. You want everyone to call the cops(to mitigate liberal cowardice), so maybe you should show a little more respect.

Phils2008
December 23, 2013
6:35 p.m.

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ronzo, what parts of this are wrong?
http://thehill.com/opinion/dick-morris/1...

amermike
December 24, 2013
12:35 a.m.

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Phil-right wing government leader is an oxymoron.

ronzo
December 24, 2013
7:01 a.m.

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Phils2008: Are you having difficulty comprehending my statements? I am totally against public worker unions and how they scam taxpayers. I have not bashed firefighters and policemen, even though some of them are part of the taxpayer scam through their strong unions. I am totally against their worker union, not against any of them and the jobs they perform. And the right wing government leaders? I am not aware of many right wing city leaders, since cities tend to lean liberal because of the makeup of the populace. I'm referring to all the layers of government in a county in addition to cities. Villages within towns, towns within counties, multiple fire and police departments, multiple school districts, highway departments, layers and layers of government and burearacracy within a single county; in most of upstate NY governed by right wing politicians who gladly slam the taxpayers with their bureaucratic government largess, then bash the "liberal" Federal government for doing the same. You sound like a city dweller who might want to better understand government administration in New York State outside of cities, and how that byzantine form of government negatively affects the taxpayers.

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