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Editorial: Scale back with stop and frisk

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The New York City Police Department’s “stop-and-frisk” policy has very likely contributed to the continued drop in the city’s crime rate, but the program has expanded too far in recent years. According to a decision issued this week by U.S. District Court Judge Shira Scheindlin, “street stops” by city police amounted to about 150,000 a year in 1998 and went up to 313,000 annually by 2004. “Since then,” she wrote, “the number has increased every ...

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wmarincic
May 21, 2012
7:40 a.m.

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And how many weapons and violent criminals are taken off the streets? I guarantee that if a close family member is robbed and killed on the street you would feel differently. BTW stop with the continuous anti police retoric, we are tired of it.

Fritzdawg
May 21, 2012
2:32 p.m.

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The article is about cops in NYC, not the Capital District.
The cops in NYC are none too pleased to be doing this and are only doing it on orders from their superiors.

In THIS area, (you know, the one where most of your readers live?) "stop and frisk" barely happens at all.

In THIS area, the cops only frisk you if they feel there is a need to, based on your actions, or behaviours, (obvious drug dealing, or being seen trying to conceal something) or if a crime happens, and you fit the description.

I don't think that the cops in THIS area, go on many "fishing expeditions" of this type at all.

wmarincic
May 21, 2012
5:38 p.m.

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Fritzdawg

Since most of SPD's time is responding to domestic violence calls and being unpaid ambulance drivers in a city where the per capita crime is the same as Albany with half of the Police force, i dare say they really dont have time to be as proactive as they want to be.

Fritzdawg
May 21, 2012
7:36 p.m.

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They still don't just stop and frisk people just on spec.
Nor do they in Albany.

If you are just coming out of a known drug sales area, and don't look like you belong there they might, but still, it's very seldom.

rswanker
May 21, 2012
8:13 p.m.

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wmarincic and Fritzdawg: A quick google search shows:

"In 2011, 88 percent of all stops did not result in an arrest or a summons being given. Contraband was found in only 2 percent of all stops. The NYPD claims their stop and frisk policy keeps weapons off the street – but weapons were recovered in only one percent of all stops."

(Source: http://ccrjustice.org/stopandfrisk)
I've seen similar data from other sources.

Stating "facts" that actually have no supporting data is not a helpful way to further the debate.

Stopping and searching American citizens who are not suspected of having committed or being about to commit a crime is un-Constitutional, and in this case, it is also ineffective.

Also, this editorial does not claim to speak about anything other than the actions of the NYPD. It does not claim to criticize actions of the SPD. Focus, people.

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