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Strock’s expectations as a tourist in Israel unrealistically high Re Carl Strock’s March 25 column [“On the prowl for wonders in Jerusalem”], I felt he often lacked acceptance of the more religious factions of Judaism because of how they dressed, acted, believed and behaved. Who were they hurting? Expecting that a people in their own land be cordial or interested in having a conversation with a visitor is likely to be a disappointment for anyone ...


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patricca
March 29, 2012
6:14 a.m.

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To Bruce: Attacking a man for his politics is one thing, but attacking a man's physical health is way out of bounds.

Newsworthy
March 29, 2012
10:48 a.m.

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Vito, I was with you until the 4th paragraph. There is enough energy in solar, wind and hydro-power to replace all combustible and nuclear fuel sources. The reasons it's not practical or affordable are: 1- so much money and influence in oil and natural gas that influences governments, and 2 - the attitude that it can't be done.

These technologies are in their infancies; meaning they need more development and wide-spread use to lower their unit cost. They are also being developed by companies like GE. These are companies that like products with huge price tags that prevent small businesses from competing with them. They do everything BIG, using hi-tech electronics, expensive materials and construction methods, resulting in high priced products. Government subsidies encourage that approach.

The energy is all around, ready for use; we have to develop smarter, cost-effective technology to use it NOW. No, I don't live in a "green" home. I'm a humble lower middle-class worker with a mortgage. However, I do employ energy-saving technologies that are affordable to me - a "smart" thermostat (set no higher than 65 in the winter), insulation in my house, CFL lights, turning off lights in un-occupied rooms, etc. I also took physics in high school and learned that what we can do now does not define what we can do in the future. If you don't believe that, I suggest looking up such people as Bell, Edison, the Wright brothers, et al.

SnowGrinch
March 29, 2012
10:55 a.m.

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Cheney's 'Physical Health'???
As a Yale student in the 60's, Cheney turned 18 and became eligible for the draft. Cheney sought deferments and by the time he turned 26 in January 1967 and was no longer eligible for the draft, he had asked for and received FIVE deferments.
That means FIVE other Americans served in Cheney's place, quite likely in Vietnam. FIVE other Americans were exposed to toxic chemicals, bullets & bombs... I wonder about the 'Physical Health' of those FIVE Americans after they served Cheney's Military Obligation.

When asked about his military deferments in a Washington Post interview... Cheney replied:
"I had 'Other Priorities' in the 60's than military service."
Throughout Cheney's long political career, his Pro-War stance sent others to serve and die for a cause Cheney evaded... He had "Other Priorities".

I wish Cheney success with his new heart... since it will be the first one he's ever possessed.

albright1
March 29, 2012
12:06 p.m.

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Newsworthy, what do you mean that it is Cheney's first heart? It is a replacement. So it is his second heart.

While you ponder, could you lay out President Obama's and Clinton's military service record for us also.

albright1
March 29, 2012
12:07 p.m.

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I apologize, my comment above should have been directed to Mr. SnowGrinch.

rwglass
March 29, 2012
12:15 p.m.

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Mr SnowGrinch, Newsworthy sameo sameo

tonijean613
March 29, 2012
1:11 p.m.

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To Patricia: Mr. New Heart Cheney is responsible for the torture of detainees, the killing of innocent women and children and should be prosecuted for war crimes along with his buddy in crime Bush- for launching wars based on lies.
Politics has nothing to do with the fact that it takes a heartless person to commit such crimes against humanity. And Im sad to say a tuned out and look the other way American society allows the horror to continue. I find hope in those wh refuse to look the other way.

wmarincic
March 29, 2012
1:53 p.m.

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tonijean613

I have two active military soldiers, one son and one daughter. My son is an Iraqi war veteran and my daughter will be in Afghanistan in November. That so called torture got us Bin Laden and numerous other terrorists and saved thousands of lives.

SnowGrinch
March 29, 2012
2:12 p.m.

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wmarincic,
The USA executed Nazi's and Japanese after WW2 for similar torture.
You may think that torture is acceptable but the rest of America doesn't.

Obama succeeded in getting BinLaden, where the War Criminals Bush/Cheney failed.
Torture, according to John McCain (a man who knows a lot about torture) seldom if ever results in reliable information.
Obama got BinLaden with proven intelligence gathering work... not torture.

Fritzdawg
March 29, 2012
2:57 p.m.

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wmarincic:"That so called torture got us Bin Laden and numerous other terrorists and saved thousands of lives."

No, it didn't. Even the Department Of Defense said it didn't.

SnowGrinch
March 29, 2012
3:10 p.m.

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Fitzdawg,
Many of wmarincic's posts are 'long on opinion' and 'short on facts'!

wmarincic
March 29, 2012
5:49 p.m.

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snowgrinch
what have you done for your country and or community? I could give you a list as long as your arm of things I have done. Everything I say I say with fact, that is why I don't hide behind a fake name like you. You are listening to Obama's people because the infor was gathered by waterboarding of terrorists.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/0...

EH3
March 29, 2012
7:33 p.m.

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wmarincic, did you actually read the links you sent???
Let me cut and paste:
According to former Bush officials, Mohammed, in fact, “did not reveal the names while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding.” He identified the names months later under “standard interrogation, they said.” The C.I.A actually obtained the courier’s name by placing “more agents in the field” in 2005 and “intercepting telephone calls and e-mail messages between the [courier's] family and anyone inside Pakistan. From there they got his full name.”

Bush’s Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld also threw cold water on the GOP’s waterboarding logic, flatly stating yesterday that “it was not harsh treatment and it was not waterboarding” that secured the information. Former Rep. Pete Hoektsra, the ranking member of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence during the Bush administration and a fan of waterboarding, even said that “I am skeptical that [waterboarding] was the ‘the critical info’ to our weekend success,” noting that it “ended years ago.”

This morning on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Obama’s counter-terrorism adviser John Brennan confirmed that the information acquired over nine years did not come from waterboarding but was pieced together from multiple sources.

-you can't just listen to the sound bytes...

wmarincic
March 29, 2012
8:17 p.m.

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Actually I did read it,

Allies of George W. Bush have provoked a storm by claiming Osama Bin Laden’s death vindicates the former U.S. president’s approval of torture against Al Qaeda suspects.
Smarting at the political capital being made by Barack Obama’s Democrats over the killing of the 9/11 mastermind, they say his Republican predecessor should really be taking the credit – for permitting the use of controversial interrogation techniques.
In 2009, Obama banned the use of waterboarding – simulated drowning – on prisoners.
However, Homeland Security Committee chairman Peter King and former Justice Department official John Yoo have both come out in favour of ‘enhanced interrogation techniques’ this week.
Vindicated: Evidence-gathering that helped find the Al Qaeda leader’s hideaway was aided by waterboarding, Homeland Security Committee chairman Peter King and former Justice Department official John Yoo claim
9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded for information 183 times and Mr King says this was crucial to tracking down Bin Laden.
‘Osama Bin Laden would not have been captured and killed if it were not for the initial information we got from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed after he was waterboarded,’ he told CBS New York.

If I saw a reporter from the NY Times sitting on a block of ice and he told me his ass was cold I would not believe him.

SnowGrinch
March 29, 2012
8:28 p.m.

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EH3
As I posted earlier to Fitzdawg,
"Many of wmarincic's posts are 'long on opinion' and 'short on facts'"!
wmarincic's own links prove him to be wrong.

SnowGrinch
March 29, 2012
8:36 p.m.

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wmarincic only includes part of the links...
the part that favors his opinion.

From Wmarincic's own link:
But the New York Times claims waterboarding only played a SMALL PART in identifying Bin Laden’s courier and exposing his secret compound.
In fact the newspaper said Mohammed REPEATEDLY MISLED HIS INTERROGATORS about the courier’s identity, despite being waterboarded 183 times.
And:
Retired CIA officer Glenn Carle told the New York Times that coercive techniques "DIDN'T PROVIDE USEFUL, MEANINGFUL, TRUSTWORTHY INFORMATION.
'The bottom line is this - if we had some kind of smoking-gun intelligence from waterboarding in 2003, we would have taken out Osama Bin Laden in 2003’.
‘It took years of collection and analysis from many different sources to develop the case that enabled us to identify this compound, and reach a judgement that Bin Laden was likely to be living there.’

For some people, opinion supersedes fact.

EH3
March 29, 2012
8:40 p.m.

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so true!

wmarincic
March 29, 2012
8:54 p.m.

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No retired CIA Officer that was anyone would ever talk to the NY Times which is a Soros mouthpiece. snowgrinch and Eh3 are two of a kind, but what do you expect in liberal union run NY.

EH3
March 29, 2012
9:44 p.m.

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another great argument! I'm convinced now wmarincic!

JLibertarian
March 30, 2012
5:12 p.m.

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Newsworthy, you are so wrong. Those technologies are not in their infancy. Wind power has been around for centuries. We are still using solar technology developed more than 50 years ago. I have been a fan of solar energy since I was in college 35 years ago. Wind power will never become too prominent and environmentalists don't like windmills. We won't be able to replace our energy needs with either of these. Do you know anyone flying a solar powered plane?

You are right about one thing though. Alternative forms of energy have been stifled by big oil, etc. In fact, there a way to generate electricity for free that was invented by Nicola Tesla about 90 years ago. He was ostracized so much about it that he is supposed to have gone mad. But I do material on how to build this generator and I have asked me engineer friend and my nephew who is studying engineering about it. They say it is real.

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