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Faith’s fruits as seen in Jerusalem

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Ladies and gentlemen, I am in Jerusalem. Not Jerusalem in the Finger Lakes region of New York state but Jerusalem in Israel. I’m here with my wife on what she insists is a vacation but what I’m treating more as a research project. We’re combining the two as best we can, which is not difficult, since so many of the tourist sites are also research sites. So far we have visited the Church of the ...


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wmarincic
March 20, 2012
7:26 a.m.

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You would probably find nutcase liberals like you Strock.

jerryrock
March 20, 2012
8:41 a.m.

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Great article! Love the fact that you are vacationing in Jerusalem.

Sparkys_Dad
March 20, 2012
10:55 a.m.

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What a GREAT article !!

You remind me of my old very conservative Scottish father-in-law (now passed). He said so many of the same things about religion.

I have no idea why 7:26 would tag you as liberal.
You have the biting sarcasm of an old Scotsman!

Carry on old man!

twohands
March 20, 2012
1:05 p.m.

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The Church of the Nativity has a similar provenance and administration. And there are competing spots on the Jordan where Jesus was baptised.

It's a wonderful country, though. Be sure to visit Yad Vashem.

albright1
March 20, 2012
1:06 p.m.

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A lot of folks need the hope and joy that comes from the belief in God. There are a lot of reasons why. They are just regular people with regular people pain and anguish. Why would you make fun of this?

rswanker
March 20, 2012
8:06 p.m.

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Hi albright1,

I think one reason he does it because a lot of people also use belief in their god to force their will on other people - often violently (as Carl describes).

lanaturner
March 21, 2012
10:08 a.m.

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@wmarinic

Wow, what a thoughful, cogent and polite response. You truly are a bitter person. I hope someday you find your reward, and that it is equal to all of the vile, mean spirited, and victim laden diatribes you post here daily.

In other words, see you in hell.

jerryrock
March 21, 2012
10:43 a.m.

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Strock's writing truthfully describes what he sees. It points out the absurdity of people's actions when blindly following what they feel will please the humans in charge of a particular religion. These actions more often than not, create discourse with other religions or groups of people.

What we need in this world is faith and respect in each other regardless of religious belief or lack thereof. It is the life force or "spirit" in each and everyone of us that must be nurtured and we can only accomplish this with mutual respect, opening our minds and communicating with one another without condemnation.

Gerald J Skrocki

smith
March 21, 2012
2:34 p.m.

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So does this mean you'll be deducting your "research" trip from your taxes so the rest of us can fund your vacations around the world?

lanaturner
March 21, 2012
3:56 p.m.

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@amith,

way to go off topic and mean spiried like your buddy wmarinic...what is with you people? Who spit in your cheerios? Or is it that you never have and never will achive a station in life where you could afford a trip to Binghamton, much less Jersusalem...

For Pete's sake, what a load of crybabies these columns attract. Pathetic.

wmarincic
March 21, 2012
7:30 p.m.

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lanaturner isn't there an occupy movement that is missing their idiot? You libs are too funny, it's alright for Strock to disparage Christianity but not me to disparage him. If he had any b^^ls he would disparage mohammad and muslims, but alas only Christians are fair game to you people. You will be the one in hell not me. I know where I will be.

lanaturner
March 22, 2012
8:05 a.m.

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@wmarinic, what you know about me could fit in a thimble. You, on the other hand are as transparent as glass. Victim. Whiner. Bigot. Incapable of taking responsibility for your own bad choices, but at the ready to blame anyone and everyone for theirs.

wmarincic
March 22, 2012
6:30 p.m.

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lanaturner you are wrong on every count. I am not a victim never have been, when a man tried to rob me at gunpoint I shot him 3 times point blank. I don't whine I state fact and will give anyone my opinion that is why I use my real name, unlike you I will stand for what I believe in. I am far from a bigot, just ask any of my mutitude of friends from all races and diversities. I have always taken responsibility for myself and my children whom I taught to be good citizens and proud of their accomplishments and country. They are both in the military defending your right to be an idiot.

englishperfect
March 23, 2012
3:12 a.m.

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Carl, keep calling it as you see it. Looking forward to more posts from Jerusalem.
B&P

lanaturner
March 23, 2012
8:06 a.m.

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@wmarinic

Oh I forget, a name caller too.

Jesus wept.

justapto
March 23, 2012
7:33 p.m.

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I hope Carls wife has a good paying job. This twice monthly Gazette gig can't pay more than 50 bucks a week.
No wonder he is so down on working folks who have a real paying job above minimum wage.

smith
March 24, 2012
12:47 p.m.

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I suppose I have to apologize. I’ve been remiss in my internet etiquette by not looking back at this thread. But I hadn’t expected someone who apparently knows me better than myself, or anyone else, to pigeon-hole me as some sort of bounder for a little tongue-in-cheek intended for Carl’s good sense of irony. Of course, everyone knows that a writer can deduct research expenses against income derived from their publications; it’s perfectly legitimate. The irony is in Carl’s frequent complaints over the public paying schoolteachers their salary when they are only in class 180 times a year, and Carl, producing his educational column less than 150 times a year, having the opportunity to have the taxpayer reimburse his vacations. Neither one is any more “mean-spirited” than the other. It is just a little playful irony of the sort Carl enjoys, not a terrific analogy perhaps, but I can see him chuckling and nodding a little “touché” before returning some elegantly drafted retort.

carolynclayton
March 25, 2012
7:06 p.m.

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Shot a person three times point blank? I do not recall how many times a person in Florida shot to death a young man because he presumed the young man was "up to something". Only in America.

Woodrow
March 28, 2012
9:53 a.m.

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Carl, while I find myself often in disagreement with your positions on Christianity, I want say thanks for this column. Your recounting of the circus that the Holy Lands has become is much like what Mark Twain wrote in INNOCENTS ABROAD.

ljoconnor
April 5, 2012
9:07 a.m.

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You would think that as an engineer I am at the cutting edge of technology. Alas, it was only today that I finally logged on to see what the Daily Gazette has to offer to the tech savvy. Wow, I missed this one!

Carl,
Your observations are priceless. We can all use a little levity now and then. Although I often disagree with your conclusions and, yes, you are often considered rude, I applaud you for your courage and tenacity. Keep up the good work. I loved reading this article and all you wrote about your Jerusalem trip.

Cheers,
Larry

ljoconnor
April 5, 2012
9:10 a.m.

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Oh and I am embarrassed to find posters on this page who claim to be Christians and behave like the Devil!

Talk about self-defeating argumentation, UGGHH.
Ciao,
Larry

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