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Voiding the 2nd Amendment won’t solve the problem

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Voiding the 2nd Amendment won’t solve the problem After just reading the Dec. 21 letter by Robert J. Sanfilippo, I am beginning to wonder where your paper is heading. To even think about printing such trash is beyond me. If we didn’t have the Second Amendment, we would soon turn into a communist country, which is evidently what Mr. Sanfilippo wants to happen. He hasn’t a clue on what is wrong in this country. Try ...


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FrankLowe
December 29, 2012
7:25 a.m.

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Mr Karandy, the NRA is funded by its more than 4 million members, all normal everyday working people, not by firearms makers, unlike the radical anti gun groups, which are funded by Hollywood, Moveon.org, the elite media, and other assorted anti freedom groups with very deep pockets. Why not just be honest and admit that your goal is to control individuals because you think you know better how we should live our lives.
By the way, why didn't you include Mexico in your analysis? How's that strict gun control thing working out down there?

SnowGrinch
December 29, 2012
11:56 a.m.

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The NRA represents Gun Makers,and Gun Sellers, not gun owners.
The NRA opposes background checks on all gun sales. The NRA opposes gun owners having to notify police when guns are lost or stolen. The NRA opposes banning gun ownership for people on terrorism watch lists.
The NRA is funded by Gun Makers... They are fundamentally a business lobby group, but unlike your usual business lobby group they claim to represent the customer.
Nearly a hundred makers and sellers of guns, ammunition and gun accessories contribute to the NRA. Gunmaker Beretta gave the NRA $1 million dollars in 2008 alone. The infamous Blackwater Worldwide (now Xe), has given over half a million. Fifteen of the companies giving the NRA money make assault weapons. Dozens make or sell high capacity ammunition magazines. Could that be why the NRA is so opposed to restricting them?
Once an organization that claimed to not be affiliated with any gun companies, the NRA has received tens of millions of dollars in contributions from them since 2005 alone. Any company giving $25,000 or more gets to be part of their "Ring of Freedom." Giving $5 million or more gets you dinner at headquarters with the NRA CEO.
Nearly 75 per cent of NRA MEMBERS support background checks for all gun owners, 64 per cent agree owners should have to report lost or stolen guns, 71 per cent are against terrorism watch list members owning guns.
We need to start seeing the NRA for what it is: a marketing and lobbying machine for the gun industry.

wmarincic
December 29, 2012
2:10 p.m.

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But th majority of the money comes from privatecitizen donations.

SnowGrinch
December 29, 2012
2:40 p.m.

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What NRA MEMBERS THINK:
According to a poll conducted in May by REPUBLICAN pollster Frank Luntz, NRA members, overwhelmingly support measures typically described as “GUN CONTROL:

1. Requiring criminal background checks on gun owners and gun shop employees.
87 percent of non-NRA gun-owners and 74 percent of NRA gun owners support the former,and 80 percent and 79 percent, respectively, endorse the latter.

2. Prohibiting terrorist watch list members from acquiring guns. Support ranges from 80 percent among non-NRA gun-owners to 71 percent among NRA members.

3. Mandating that gun-owners tell the police when their gun is stolen. 71 percent non-NRA gun-owners support this measure, as do 64 percent of NRA members.

4. Concealed carry permits should only be restricted to individuals who have completed a safety training course and are 21 and older. 84 percent of non-NRA and 74 percent of NRA member gun-owners support the safety training restriction, and the numbers are 74 percent and 63 percent for the age restriction.

5. Concealed carry permits shouldn't be given to perpetrators of violent misdemeanors or individuals arrested for domestic violence.
The NRA/non-NRA gun-owner split on these issues is 81 percent and 75 percent in favor of the
violent misdemeanors provision and 78 percent/68 percent in favor of the domestic violence restriction.
I don't speak for NRA MEMBERS, but this poll does. Again it proves the NRA works for the Gun Makers and the Gun Sellers, not the Gun Owners.
http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/...

wmarincic
December 29, 2012
2:44 p.m.

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snowgrinch, AARP will make billions off of Obamacare and they spent tens of millions supporting Obama, does that mean that they should not speak for seniors?

albright1
December 29, 2012
3:11 p.m.

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Grinch, your opening statements on what the NRA opposes are flat out strawman lies. Which is a characteristic of your arguments. Go to the NRA-ILA website and find out what they oppose and support instead of going to Huffington Post.

FrankLowe
December 29, 2012
3:32 p.m.

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Snowgrinch,

Everything you've listed with the exception of #2 isn't unreasonable, isn't gun control and hasn't been unilaterally opposed by the NRA. Most states already have these rules in place including violent cities like Chicago and DC, and it hasn't helped them. As far as #2, the "terrorist watch list", the feds have elderly grandmothers and infants on their watch list, proving they can do nothing right. As an example, Mohamed Otta's immigration paperwork was approved six months after he flew a plane into the WTC. I don't trust them with any kind of list.
I can't speak for the NRA either, but I am a life member and even though I don't agree with Lapierre's armed schools proposal, I will continue to support their defense of the second amendment. The NRA does indeed receive the bulk of their money from their 4 million (and rapidly growing) members.

wmarincic
December 29, 2012
5:16 p.m.

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What get's me is this is the stuff that always happens. Some psycho does something and we start losing our rights with more laws. The only thing protecting our 1st Ammendment is the 2nd Ammendment.

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