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Letters to the Editor for August 13

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SCCC students should be old enough to follow pedestrian rules Let me preface my letter by saying that I would not like to see any pedestrians get injured. Now, having said that, I read with interest the Aug. 4 editorial about the need to make the SCCC students safe on their trip from the dorms to the school. Correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t these same students also of an age to be ...

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ronzo
August 13, 2012
9:51 a.m.

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Regarding the letter "Obamacare can't deliver....". Whether or not it can and will deliver may depend on how you feel about it and its purpose. The writer brings up the associated dollar factor throughout the letter. Even if all the numbers suggested are totally wrong, and the cost turns out to be even greater than the $2.6 trillion he suggests, isn't that a small price to pay to help OUR citizens? The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan cost how much? Paid for on a credit card. That us and our descendents are and will continue to pay and deal with? How many Americans other than the defense contractors, were helped and benefited from those wars? And what will be the ongoing cost to support the veterans who's lives were lost or ruined as a result? The cost of Obamacare could be miniscule compared to the cost of Iraq and Afghanistan. So when our future generations get stuck paying the bill at least it will be because the ACA will benefit OUR real people, not the politicians and CEOs. If we took the entire amount spent on those wars and split it up to give $100,000 a year for 10 years to our unemployed, how many people would get $100K? Maybe there would be no one hurting because they're unemployed? I'd rather we be socialists that way than hide behind our greatest form of socialism which we call the military. So it just depends on your belief. Whether you want to pay for a war or pay to take care of your own, it costs. Of course, you could do neither.

wmarincic
August 13, 2012
11:05 a.m.

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ronzo,

The truth is that America will be like Europe with poor medical care and there will only be so much money in the pool and people with cancer like my wife will be left to die due to the cost. Doctors wont work for nothing. Get off the something for nothing kick, socialism does NOT work.

robbump
August 13, 2012
5:02 p.m.

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I could not agree more with "Jeannette Kenneally" in her what she states in her letter "SCCC students should be old enough to follow pedestrian rules".

I AM a student at SCCC, but an older one raised when we walked to school, played outside unsupervised and unhelmetted and if we did something wrong, could count as much on some adult NOT our parent as we could our own parent to set us straight.

These "kids" are the same ones behind steering wheels everyday, as well as being the same age as those running nuclear subs and fighting wars in the mid-east. Just how long should we be expected to hold the hand of this "special" crop of students at SCCC?

I say don't. If any are injured or killed, it will regrettable, but totally understandable. It will have been the young ADULT who was responsible, not the college, state, college, and very likely not even the driver.

Expect more of people and most will usually deliver. Ask nothing and you'll receive it. It's time to ask more.

ronzo
August 14, 2012
7:47 a.m.

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wmarincic:

I know exactly what you mean, because I once thought like you. I changed my beliefs from voting almost 100% Republican in my younger years to embracing progressive liberal beliefs in my senior years due to several drastic life changing events, one of which was when our health plan said NO to my wife's cancer treatment that her oncologist wanted to try for her. I call that "being left to die" by their "death panel". If we had Medicare for all, the cost we paid out of pocket for her life saving treatment would have avoided our personal bankruptcy which then caused us to go from full tax-paying citizens to your something for nothing takers. I know none of this will change your thinking, so just leave it there.

pnotto
August 14, 2012
12:53 p.m.

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So ronzo, your why the country is going to hell!!!

newyorker65
August 14, 2012
2:07 p.m.

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Re: SCCC students... I'm not so worried that the students won't/can't following the laws of crossing the street properly... I'm more worried about those crazy drivers zooming off 890 down the ramp (between the dorms and the college) trying to beat the light at State Street! Or how about those idiots who screech their tires rounding the corner from State Street to beat each other trying to get onto 890? If you could get THEM to obey the laws, SLOW DOWN, and watch for pedestrians, then we'd all be safe!

robbump
August 14, 2012
5:57 p.m.

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With most of the drivers in that intersection needing to turn, coupled with those approaching from Erie/I-890 having just crossed an overpass plus encountering merging traffic, most of those drivers are going all that fast. Too many "traffic-calming" structures slow them down.

Stand at Erie and State and see the drivers on the "straight-away" and no stop signs or signals of any type racing north on Erie Blvd.

There's where you have crazy drivers, and it's also the scene of a SCCC student fatality last year. More students must travel between the main campus and center city campus daily than all the students in the dorm.

My observations are that of someone who uses both intersections daily, multiple times, on foot. I'm 60+ so if I can navigate them safely, so can 18 year olds.

Paul4Me
August 15, 2012
4:17 p.m.

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You know, if you look at statistics, it is the driver who kills the pedestrian and normally the driver is in the wrong. I don't hear of too many people jumping in front of cars these days! Do you think we live in a perfect world where all drivers obey the law? Many drivers rush through red lights, speed, drive under the influence, etc., and truly do not care that they are breaking the law. Those are the idiots I am worried about hitting pedestrians, I don't care where they are trying to cross. The pedestrians are not the issue (assuming they are vigilant when crossing); it is the drivers who are the maniacs. As we have read all too often, many pedestrians cross the street in total conformance with the law, and are killed by some careless, selfish and negligent driver.

robbump
August 16, 2012
4:01 p.m.

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Paul4Me: the problem is that many students DO walk right in front of traffic, expecting it to stop. I think those students DESERVE a good personal and educational lesson in physics. Darwin's law in action.

Paul4Me
August 16, 2012
5:30 p.m.

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ROBBUMP: Well....I have to share this. I wrote this editorial and then afterwards, went out to the store. Didn't three teenagers walk right out in front of my car, while I was driving at the intersection of Balltown and Nott. They were not crossing at a crosswalk and I saw two of them look at me and decided to walk right out in front of my moving car, regardless. They did not care. They expected me to slam on the brakes and I did. Perhaps we can conclude that some people are downright negligent with their bodies or lack basic intelligence whether they drive a car or walk.

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